This presentation
is brought to you by Arizona State
University’s Global Institute of Sustainability and
a generous investment by Julie Ann Wrigley. Wrigley Lecture Series–
world-renowned thinkers and problem solvers engage
the community in dialogues to address sustainability
challenges. [MUSIC PLAYING] Jacob Moore: So before we
get started, and thank you all for coming out this
evening, my name is Jacob Moore. I’m the assistant vice
president of tribal relations for Arizona State University. I am an enrolled member
of the Tohono O’odham Nation in Southern Arizona. I’m also Akimel O’odham
from Gila River. And my mother is from Montana. So I have Lakota Dakota. My mother is from Fort Peck
in Northeastern Montana. My grandmother is from
Cheyenne River in South Dakota. So again, thank
you for joining us. Christopher Boone: My
name is Christopher Boone. I am the dean of the
School of Sustainability. And on behalf of the Julianne
Wrigley Global Institute of Sustainability, it’s my
pleasure to welcome all of you here this evening. I just want to say a couple
of words about this series. The Wrigley Series is
the result of a lot of hard work of our faculty,
students, and staff. We spend a lot of time,
months, in advance thinking about who we can
invite to campus who we think are the most
compelling thinkers and doers in sustainability. And we reserve the Wrigley
Speakers Series specifically for people of that
stature, people who have inspired many
others in the work that we try to do
in sustainability. And certainly our
featured speaker tonight certainly fits that bill. But I’m going to ask Jacob
to come back up again, because he will be giving
the introductory remarks to our featured speaker tonight. But I just wanted
to let you know that we are very
proud to have you here as one of our speakers,
and I want to thank all of you for coming. [APPLAUSE] Moore: So thank you, Dean Boone,
and also Royce for the blessing this evening. Again, as he mentioned, we
are in the ancestral land of the Akimel O’odham
and the Pee-Posh. And I really appreciate
working for a university that will acknowledge that,
that will recognize that. We have a Native American
Advisory Committee made up of some of our senior faculty. And they do have the opportunity
to share with the president’s office the concerns,
the dreams, the issues within our communities. We have 22 tribes in Arizona. And about a year ago, we had
asked the president’s office for a letter acknowledging
where we’re located. So President Crow
had issued a letter stating that we are in the
ancestral lands regardless of which campus we’re
on and that it’s important to recognize
where this place is and what it meant to those
that were here before still here now, but here long before. And what the letter also said
was our deans, our professors, our staff, our faculty are also
responsible for every student, every American Indian student
that’s on this campus. So I’d like to ask those
students if they could please stand and be recognized. We have any ASU
students here tonight? [APPLAUSE] So this is really
what it’s all about. And again, this is
an important evening, but I think it’s also important
that we know that we are also here to support our future,
that obviously we’re in a difficult time. We’re in a time where the
leader of the free world is corresponding
with us by tweets. And it’s really important to
have people like Winona LaDuke to know that we still
have intelligent people, [APPLAUSE] that we
have real thinkers, that we have people that
care about the environment, about our communities,
about our way of life. And so with that, I’m going to
keep my introductions short, but I do want to
just make sure that I give a proper introduction
to Winona LaDuke, who is an environmentalist,
a political activist. She is an
internationally-renowned activist, working on issues
of sustainable development, renewable energy,
and food systems. She lives and works on the White
Earth Reservation in Northern Minnesota and is a two-time
vice presidential candidate with Ralph Nader
for the Green Party. As program director
for Honor the Earth, she works nationally and
internationally on the issues of climate change,
renewable energy, and environmental justice
with indigenous communities. And in her own community,
she is the founder of the White Earth Land
Recovery Project, one of the largest reservation-based
nonprofit organizations in the country. And she’s also a leader on
issues of culturally-based sustainable development
strategies– renewable energy
and food systems. And in this work,
she also continues national and international work
to protect indigenous plants and heritage foods
from patenting in genetic engineering. She is a graduate of Harvard
and Antioch Universities. She has written extensively
on Native American and environmental issues. She is a former board
member of Greenpeace– ASU– sorry about that– Greenpeace USA– it’s my
dyslexia– so Go Devils– and is presently an
advisory board member for the Trust of Public
Lands Native Lands Program as well as board member
of the Christensen Fund. She is the author of
five books, including Recovering the Sacred,
All of Our Relations, and a novel, Last
Woman Standing. And more recently,
her most recent book is Winona LaDuke’s Chronicles. So she is widely
recognized for her work on environmental and
human rights issues. And please give a warm
welcome to Winona LaDuke. [APPLAUSE] Winona LaDuke: That was
a very big introduction. Thank you. I’m really honored to
be here with you today. Thank you very much for the
opening as well– the prayer. [speaks Native language] Hello my relatives. [speaks Native language] Thank you again for the
honor of being here. I rewrote my notes so
that they were tidy. They were kind of scribbly. This month in our
language is called [speaks Native language], which
is the hard-crusted snow moon. And then [speaks
Native language] is the one that follows that. It’s the maple syrupy moon
that came early this year because of climate change
are all sapping now up North. And then we have [speaks
Native language]. That’s the flower moon. [speaks Native language]
the strawberry moon, [speaks Native language]
the blueberry moon. Then we have a moon called
[speaks Native language] is the wild rice making moon. Those are some of the
moons in my language. I thought you might
like to hear it. And I wanted to say– I don’t know if any of you
noticed that none of those is named after a Roman emperor. Did you guys all get that? So I just wanted to say you
could take a break from all that empire stuff. It’s going to be OK. Just let some of it go. It’s a big burden to carry
around, a lot of karmic stuff, might be OK. Let it go. I liked how you
said take a breath, because that’s what I was
thinking, because I come down here, and I feel like
everybody is always in a really big
hurry down here– like build more, do
more, make more of this. You know? And sometimes I feel like
we should take a breath. Maybe we don’t need to do
all that stuff, which I think is this moment, a little
bit about this moment. So this is a piece
of art that we have. And this is Kim Smith,
who is a Dine woman, and she’s one of
my board members. And this is the art show
called The Art of Indigenous Resistance that she curates. And it’s traveling around,
and I really like it. And I like that piece, and
that’s me and her at opening. But to me, this is
this interesting time that we are in. And as I reflect on this
moment and the first 100 days of the big guy in DC,
and I think about his plan and then what the
plan is we need, I think we really need something
more like the Sitting Bull plan. That’s what we need. And we need something where
we put our minds together to see what kind of future
we can make for our children. And that’s our moment. And as I reflect on that,
and as I think about that, I ask the question that
probably a lot of you might ask is, what’s it going to be
like 50 years from now here? 100 years from now? Where is your water coming from? Where is your food
going to come from? What are we going
to be thinking? Are we going to be
conscious thinkers? Will we be creative
and beautiful people? Will we treat each other well? Those are really the
questions that we need to ask in our society. And I reflect on
that a lot, because I think that those are really
things that we need to decide. And I don’t feel very confident
about relinquishing control over all of that to
pretty much the guys in DC or a lot of these other
guys, because I don’t think they’ll make good decisions. We don’t have any
experience with them making good decisions. But then that requires
us to have agency, to take responsibility
for those decisions and to do the right thing,
and not just to talk about it, but to do it. This is the just do
it speech really– no, not quite,
something like that. But one of my
friends, Mike Wiggins, he’s a former travel
chair of the Bad River Reservation in Wisconsin. And one day he was fighting
a big mining company, and those guys scrapped it
out on that mining company, and they have three or
four big battles they won– big mining company that was
upstream for them, and he said, he’d been down to
the legislature in Madison, Wisconsin. And he came back, and
he shook his head. He says, it seems
like those guys don’t want to hang around
another 1,000 years. And it really made me
think, because whether it is the Tohono O’odham, or
the Dine, or all of us, we come from people who
lived here for thousands of years, thousands of years. So as I reflect on where we
are and where we’re going, this is where I come from. My village– this is my lake– Gaawaawiye Gamaag, Round Lake. It’s funny, in
the history books, it says that the last
Indian uprising in Minnesota was on that lake. We stopped them from
stealing our trees. And I always say, no,
we ain’t done yet. I always hate that last
Indian uprising thing, you know what I mean? It seems like really
short-sighted, not reflective. So that’s where we live. And this is where I think we are
a piece of art by Roy Thomas. He’s deceased. But I always like to talk about
the paradigm of knowledge, which I think some of the
professors here discuss. And in that, when I was an
undergraduate at Harvard University, if you wanted to
study the art from Europe, you went to the fine
arts department. But if you wanted to study
the art of indigenous people, you went to anthropology. And I think that there is a
very significant valuation of knowledge that
comes from that. But this is our art. We are all in this together, and
we use this for this gathering that I just hosted of
about 90 Ojibwe leaders to talk about the black snakes– the pipelines coming our
way, because we know that we are all in this together. But let us talk about
when America was great. I have a totally different
idea than that other guy. My feeling is when America
was great was when there were 8,000 varieties of corn. That’s when America was great. And a lot of that corn,
the seed selection was by women, because women
are really good at that, because we know how it is
when you’re processing it and how it cooks, and
how it keeps, right? So that was before
Monsanto, right? That was like nobody
in a white coat. And a lot of the
world’s agriculture was practiced like that. That’s when America
was great when we had 8,000 varieties of corn. America was great when we
had 250 species of grass in the Northern Plains– tremendous biodiversity and,
with it, 50 million buffalo. That’s when America was great. America was great when you
had maple syrup and wild rice throughout our territory. And America was great when
you could drink the water from our rivers. And I really liked what
[? Harlan ?] [? Bear ?] Hands said today– he was talking
about how that you used to be able to go take your horses,
and you could dig down, and the spring would fill. The water would fill
from the spring, because it was close
to the surface. And you can no
longer do that here. You could no longer do
that in many places. But where I live, you can still
drink the water from a lake. That’s where I live. I live in a place where if you
go into the Boundary Waters, you could still drink
the water from a lake. And the springs
on our reservation you can still drink from. They are good springs. I live in a place where
we have so much wild rice that we can feed our people. And we still have fish. And we have worked very
hard to fight for that. So I’m going to tell you
a little bit of a story of my past four years. If you guys hung out with
me for a few minutes– basically, I’d like to be
a writer, and a gardener, and hang out with my horses. And now, I want to raise– I want to make goat cheese. That’s my bucket list, right? That’s my idea of
what I should do. But I’ve spent a lot of time
fighting stupid projects. A lot of my life
has been doing that. And I’m an economist
by training. And as I look out there
and the economic choices that we face in
the world, there’s some really dumb
decisions that are made. And they continue to be made by
people who make dumb decisions. But those dumb decisions
include a set of oil pipelines, and so what’s happened is
that in the past 15 years, they’ve come up
with this mythology of American self-sufficiency. And instead of buying
oil from the country that has the largest oil reserves in
the world, which is Venezuela, not Saudi Arabia,
it’s Venezuela, we’ve retooled the whole energy
infrastructure of this country to get oil from places it’s
really hard to get oil from. And we’ve entered this era which
is known as extreme extraction. And what it means
when you’re kind of at the bottom of the
barrel is that you have to do things like drill
20,000 feet under the ocean to get oil. That’s not like gushing oil
wells in Oklahoma anymore. That’s scary stuff. And it works out until that
Deepwater Horizon, right? Then you’ve got to
do stuff like frack– frack everything–
672 chemicals– bust up the bedrock of Mother
Earth– that stuff, right? And then you do stuff
like the tar sands. So about four years ago,
the Enbridge Company announced a pipeline
project that would cut through, as you
see, the northeast corner of my reservation. And that pipeline project
was called the Sandpiper. And the Sandpiper was
a fracked oil pipeline of 640,000 barrels a day that
was to come from the fracking fields of North Dakota. And we didn’t know
anything about it. And I was like, dang, it kind
of broadsided me, blindsided me, and I said, I am
going to study up. So I studied up, I
spent a lot of time educating my own people,
my own community, my tribal governments
in the region, because it would
affect a lot of us. And plus, we have these
extraterritorial treaty rights, which is that we harvest
throughout that territory. And so we spent a lot
of time, and then I spent a lot of time getting– I always say getting no
Norwegians mad, because who lives in the north country? There is a lot of Scandinavians. And I was like, y’all,
check this out, you know? So over four years, we built
this multiracial alliance, you know? And we went to every hearing– went to every hearing. We challenged them. I challenged Enbridge
to many debates. They never took me up. But we intervened
in every process. We took over the media, because
we have the moral high ground. It’s an oil company that wants
to risk us for its profits. We don’t produce oil. We’re just the conduit. And we already had
this set of pipelines that are going through our
territory that none of us knew much about. So we fought them
for four years. About a year and a half ago,
Friends of the Headwaters filed the lawsuits,
a non-Indian people, saying that the state should
do an environmental impact statement. The state didn’t want to
appeal the court case. And finally, the
Minnesota Court of Appeals ruled that they had to do an
environmental impact statement. At this point, four years
in, Enbridge’s plans were kind of disheveled,
a little bit problematic. I understand we cost
them $600 million. And at the same time, I
want to say we did this, but we also did a
lot of ceremonies. And that’s why I really
appreciated that prayer with the water, because
we’re water people. But we prayed. We had a lot of our
ceremonies about this. And we rode our horses– rode our horses against
the current of the oil. We rode hundreds of miles– hundreds of miles on the
proposed pipeline route. And one day after our last
ceremonial and spiritual ride against the current
of the oil last year, one day after, on August
2, the Enbridge Company announced that it
was withdrawing all of its applications to go
forward with that pipeline. That was a big victory
for our people. That was a big victory
for our people. [APPLAUSE] So we felt good about it. And then the next day we find
out that what they have done is purchased 28% of the
Dakota Access Pipeline, which is the pipeline that would
go through the Standing Rock Reservation. And so while we
had already known something about that pipeline,
and my organization, Honor the Earth had been out
there, starting in April, working with the
Sacred Stone Camp and working in the community. So we said, well, if
it’s not good for us, it’s not good for them either. So we followed them out there. We followed that
company out there. And in buying 28%
of that pipeline, we felt that they bought
quite a bit of the liability. So early on, I approached the
Enbridge Company, and I said, you want to do business
with Indian people. In our story, they tried
really hard to talk to us and bridged it. So they had these guys– I know that they
have them down here– they had these guys called the
tribal relations specialists that they sent to talk
to all the tribes– the tribal relations specialist. So we referred to them
as the Indian whispers. And they had no game. They got nowhere. They got nowhere. You know? But then they gave
me this other person to talk to called
the Indian listener. That’s how we referred to her. So I was in a meeting
with the Indian listener. I said to them, you guys
moved to North Dakota, and you didn’t even tell us. I said, I feel
like you dumped me. You know what I’m saying? For four years, they told us
that it was an essential route, but they had to do it this way. There was no other way to do it. There was no other way to go
around us, and then one day– dumped. I went to North Dakota. I said, how’s that
working out for you? They said there’s a lot
of Indians out there. I said, there’s more coming. There’s more coming. And so, that is how I became
involved in the Dakota Access Pipeline. And this is what it looked like. A lot of you were probably
up there actually. How many of you went out
there to Standing Rock? That’s cool. Thank you all for going. Thank you. [APPLAUSE] Thank our water
protectors, you know? Thank our water protectors. And thank you those of
you who supported us, because I took home some really
cool Navajo squash that some of you sent up. I don’t know. It was sitting there. I was like, can I have that? It’s like long. It’s a cool-looking squash. I know it came from
some Navajo farm. But this is what we
saw up there, you know? And you know this. And this is what’s wrong. This is what’s wrong,
that a people who are trying to protect some water
are faced with in North Dakota. And we call North Dakota–
we call it the Deep North. We call it the Deep North. And I think a lot of people saw
why after they went up there, you know? And how that happened is it
happened for a lot of reasons, but over the past
50 years, nobody’s really gone in North Dakota. They had like this
constant depopulation. And you ended up with a lot
of older, Scandinavian farmers whose kids were now living
in cool places like Phoenix, Minneapolis, and Berkeley,
and they weren’t coming home. And the native
community kept growing, and every racial statistic you
don’t want have, they had– incarceration rates 11 times
that for non-Indians, you know, everything. It was really bad what’s
going on out there– disparities in sentencing. Then the Bakken came. And the Bakken was like– the oil boom. It came, and they thought
that that would be the answer to their problems. But it wasn’t the answer
to their problems, and when this
pipeline came through, North Dakota really wanted
to protect what they perceived was their interests. My problem here is that,
look, I saw things out there I shouldn’t have
see, and I saw this. This is where they put
the dogs on our people– put the dogs on our people. And I saw this,
which is when they sprayed our people in the
water with mace, with tear gas. And I saw this, which
is called an MRAP– Mine Resistant Armored
Personnel carrier. Now, to the best
of my knowledge, there are no landmines
in North Dakota. Right? There’s no reason
that you should have an MRAP in North Dakota. There’s really not a building
that would justify that. I asked someone who
was in the military, and they said that’s for plowing
through the side of a building. And I was like, there’s no
buildings in Morton County that need that. It’s a really rural area. And that was rough, you know? And that other piece of
equipment called an LRAD– it’s a Long-Range
Acoustic Device that’s to bust up your
ear drums, you know? And so that’s what they did
to our people, you know? And all of this–
this is what happens when Department of
Homeland Security and the military
surpluses equipment to police departments. They get stuff they
shouldn’t have. And there needs to be a lot more
monitoring of what these police departments have, because they
tried a lot of stuff on us. And we don’t even know
the full extent of what they tried on our people. What I’ll tell you is, I
didn’t take any bullets. I didn’t take any bullets, but
my family took some bullets. You know? I didn’t take any of that stuff,
and I didn’t get arrested, and a lot of my
people got arrested– a lot of my people got arrested. And I feel like
that the question is, why did this all happen? And how did we
get to this place? And it’s been a slow
creeping, and it’s going to augment right now
where the rights of corporations supersede the rights of people. And that’s what’s happened,
because corporations are considered natural
persons under the law. You know? But what happened is that when
we had a meeting with Enbridge, they came back to
Northern Minnesota, and I am now facing a new
760,0000 barrel a day pipeline. And they had their first
meeting here in December, and it was right
after a lot of people had came back from
Standing Rock. And they had a
meeting in Bemidji, and it was a landowner meeting. And I think they thought
they’d be 20 white guys there or something. But they were wrong. And there was 100 Indians there,
because we’re landowners too. You know? So they had a small room. It was about that size. And they had no chairs in it. And one of my relatives
was up against a wall with her oxygen tank– not even a chair for that elder. That’s how crazy they were. And at a certain point, someone
asked me to say something, and so I said hey, Enbridge–
that sucks– they just know me. I was like, hey, Enbridge,
we’ve got a question to ask you. I said, we were all
up in North Dakota, because about 40 people in the
room were water protectors. I said, we were in North Dakota,
and we saw what happened there. And we feel– I called you Enbridge. It was such a
dysfunctional relationship. I called them. I texted them. I wrote them. I said, you need to
demilitarize that. You need to call off the dogs. You, Enbridge, who
talks about wanting to work with native people,
you need to do an EIS. You have the influence you
just put in 28% of the funding. You need to tell them to
not fire bullets at us. I called them. I talked to the Indian
whisperer, Indian listener, they did nothing. So I said to Enbridge– I said in this meeting–
it was my big girl voice– I was like, hey Enbridge– hey, Enbridge, we want to know. So I said to them, hey, we were
all out there in North Dakota. We all saw what you did. We all saw those bullets. We all saw those tanks. We all saw those water cannons. We all saw that tear gas. So we feel that you’re
responsible for 28% of it. We think you’re responsible
28% of the bullets– 28% of the injuries. And we want to know what
you’re going to do here. Are you going to
bring your tanks. You know? So it almost got me arrested. It was a fabulous moment. But then two big Indian
girls grabbed me on the side and said, she’s
not going anywhere. That’s it. But this is this
time that we are in. And you have to be courageous
to face them down, you know? And Enbridge is not pleased. They’re very worried
about us, you know? That’s on the night
of the water cannons. And this is just when it
was still peaceful out. And this is when
they’re leaving. This is what this story called
The Filth of North Dakota, because they talked
about cleaning up at the garbage at the camp. And I said, if you had
let our people get out of there when there was in
in the middle of snowstorms and blizzards– if you let us get out of
there, we would have been good, you know? But they bulldozed. And they took tens of
thousands of pounds of food and dumped it in dumpsters
rather than distributing it– just hateful. It was hateful. And I was with LaDonna
Allard from Sacred Stone Camp when this photo came
out, and she said, they’re burning everything. She said, but our
people burned it. She said, they burned
it out of grief. She said, our people burned
their teepees out of grief. They burned everything. You know? And so for me, I am not
someone that has amnesia. And most native people
do not have amnesia. We have long oral histories
of what happened, you know? I don’t have ecological
amnesia either just that a lot of people have. They forgot that there
used to be water there, or they forgot there
used to be trees there, or they forgot that
there used to be something beautiful there. I don’t have that, and
I don’t want to have it. And I don’t think any of us do. I think we want to be the
people that remember and live that life, you know? So I remember them people. And when I think
about what we’re all fighting about out there, it’s
this era of extreme extraction. And so we’re at the
bottom of the barrel. That’s the same thing up at
Chaco Canyon and every place. It’s the bottom of the barrel. It’s the bottom of the barrel. So in North Dakota, the thing
that really makes me angry aside from everything else that
makes me angry in North Dakota is this. So the average drilling
rig in North Dakota– the average drilling rig– well, it’s about four
years, because it’s the bottom of the barrel. And so they’ve got
to keep drilling. That’s production. They’ve got to keep drilling
to keep opening up more oil. That’s why it’s so expensive. And they have to have a
really high price of oil in order to get that. And so the thing that about this
is that today in North Dakota, there’s an 85% drop
in drilling rigs. It’s busted. The Bakken is busted. They laid off 13,000 people. They sent them home. The man camps are empty. Right? The man camps are empty. The camps that brought
us this, you know? It was a billboard out in North
Dakota a couple of years ago. They’re empty. So what I’m trying to figure
out is is that Lynn Helms, who is kind of like my nemesis. He’s the commissioner of
mines in North Dakota. And Lynn Helms– he
published this interview, and he said that in 2017,
there’s going to be 900,000 barrels of oil coming
out of the Bakken– 900,000 barrels of oil of
coming out of the Bakken. And he said in
2019, there’s going to be 900,000 barrels of oil
coming out of the Bakken– so no jump in production. And in order to
restart the Bakken, it doesn’t just like restart. It takes a little while. There’s lag time in drilling. So without getting too
technical, what I’m saying is there’s 900,000
barrels coming out now, and there’s 900,000 barrels
of oil coming out now and 900,000 barrels of
oil coming out in 2019. And so what I’m
trying to figure out is how they’re going to fill
a 570,000 barrel-per-day pipeline. You understand what I’m saying? There’s no massive jump
that would have required running over all those people. All those people losing their
eyes, losing their arms. One of your Dine women
lost an eye, right? Yeah, Vanessa. You know? Nothing required that. And that’s this
moment, you know? And I believe it’s
a Selma moment. I think it’s a Selma moment
when people said, we’re done. We’re not afraid of you. We’re going to stand
here, and you’re going to try to beat on us,
and we’re going to stand here. So what I want to say to
those of you that are here is a couple of things. We want justice. We want justice. And there’s a couple
of things about justice and what it looks like. So I’m going home here
in a couple of days, and I’m going back
to North Dakota. So I’m going to a trial,
because 750 people are facing charges in North Dakota. And some of them were
probably from down here. And the National Jury Project
surveyed the jury pool in Bismarck, right? They surveyed the jury
pool to see what bias was. 82% percent of the
jury pool in Bismarck believes that they’re guilty. Right? These people are not going to
get justice in North Dakota. But it’s this time of
reckoning in North Dakota. And so I’m going to be
part of that reckoning, because at some
point, they’ve got to come clean on what happened. At some point, we’ve
got to have justice. And for those of you who have
people that were arrested, or if you were arrested,
go back to trial. Go to trial, but bring
your people with you. And I want to see something
like the Freedom Riders, you know what I’m saying? I want people to
go to the trials. And I want North Dakota
to see our faces– to see our faces– because they need to
be held accountable. They can no longer live
in this little fiefdom of oil regulatory capture. I know you got it in New
Mexico too, you know? It’s the same thing. You know? Oil companies should
not run our democracies. And that’s really it. So I’m just saying as you
think of your schedule, see if you can get to
North Dakota at some point. Spring is breaking. It’s OK to go back. This is my sister. I always say, if you
don’t want to talk to me, you can talk to my sister. She spent a lot
of time out there. Did you meet her out there
when you were out there? She’s 6′ 2″, right? She’s like the Genghis
Khan of the Ojibwe women. She’s not much on
talking about it. She’s more on doing about it. So you probably just
want to talk to me. Let’s put it that way. But anyway, this is
what we were looking at and where our resistance is at. And I don’t need to give you
the lecture on climate change. But this is this moment. And in our prophesies,
we talk about this as the Time of the
Seventh Fire, where we say that we as
Anishnaabe people have a choice between two paths. The prophets told us
this a long time ago. And they said there’s a
choice between two paths. And one path they said was
well-worn, but scorched. And the other path is not
well-worn, and it’s green. And we were told
it was our choice upon which path to embark. And I really feel like that’s
pretty much where we’re all it. We’ve seen a lot of scorching. And you all don’t need
the lecture on this one, but there you go. There’s some scorching–
Navajo generating station– another set of scorching. All the CO2 we are
combusting ourselves to the edge of oblivion. And one of the problems
that we face in this is that unless you’ve been
watching too much Fox News, you know this is
what’s going on, right? The ice is melting. This is what’s
happening to the ocean. It’s acidifying. Right? And this is climate change
in an Alaska native village. I was visiting this
one young woman. She’s from Northern Manitoba,
and they’ve been flooded out for five years. And the Canadian government
in its infinite wisdom has put entire villages
in hotel rooms– apartment complexes in
Winnipeg from climate change. They said by 2020, the
tag for climate change is going to be 20% of world GDP. I have no idea what that’s like
three years from now, right? And what I’m saying is, it’s
pretty damn expensive already when we start quantifying it. So I don’t know who’s
supposed to pay that. I’ve got an idea who
should be paying for it– Exxon, Enbridge. That’s who should be
paying for that, right? This is what your ocean
looks like on acid. So this is where we’re at. And I just have to talk
about this for a minute. I’ve lived my entire life
in the fossil fuels era. I’ve had a blast. You know, Manny, you
had a blast too, right? We drove everywhere, right? I drove everywhere. I used to go to drive-in movies. Remember those? No? Yeah, some of you do. It was fun. You know? So in this, I’ve
had a great time. And I’ve consumed
half the world’s known oil supplies in my life. It’s been a blast. What I want is an elegant
transition out of it, right? I want an elegant
transition out. And what has happened is
that because our society is so inefficient and so
addicted to fossil fuels, we behave like a big addict. You know? And so what an addict does– I know some of you have
addicts in their family. I only have one addiction, which
is caffeine– my cup of coffee. I really like it. You know? And I’m going to stick with it. But addicts are kind of a drag. They rationalize things, right? It’s never their fault.
Did you ever notice this? It’s totally never
their fault, right? Something happens, and they’re
like, no, they did that. You know? They behave badly. Sometimes they steal. They beat people up. They do bad stuff– bad stuff. That’s kind of
what we’ve become. You know? It’s kind of like we’re so
addicted to fossil fuels that we rationalize
our behavior. We end up invading
countries for fossil fuels. We bust up the bedrock of
Mother Earth for fossil fuels. We have this fantasy of some
kind of a green transition through natural
gas that’s fracked. That is not it. You know? And then they come up with
all these other fantasies. I like the carbon
sequestration fairy plan. We’re going to take it
and put it into the ocean or up in space. Y’all have been
watching these things– billions of dollars being spent
on the carbon sequestration plan. And I believe that this carbon
sequestration fairy lives next to the nuclear waste fairy. You don’t get to do that. You have not make the mess. So this is this
moment that we’re in. And what happens is that it’s
kind of like being a junkie and then letting the drug
dealers write your loss. That’s what we’ve got. So we got it in North Dakota. And I know you got it down here. There’s this great thing in
North Dakota they just passed called technically-enhanced,
naturally-occurring radioactive materials– technically-enhanced,
naturally-occurring radioactive materials. And that sounds like
positive, right? Technically enhanced. And this is fracking waste. And they just allow the
increase they recommended daily, or they increase the allowance
from 5 picocuries per liter to 50 picocuries
per liter that you could put in certain landfills. I went to the first hearing,
and I said are you guys high? At no point did the recommended
daily allowance of radiation increase. Right? But that’s what happens
when you’re an addict. You rationalize your industry. You make up for them. You increase the background
levels for all your studies, right? That’s what’s going on. We got to quit. So how I know things
are going to change is a couple of things. So we’re going to
keep working on it. Now, this is the big guys
aren’t doing so good, which I didn’t really
realize until I was reading some geeky report,
which is, OK, so look at this. The past five years,
these companies– it’s the end of the
fossil fuel era. And how I know it’s the
end is stuff like this. So in 2011, as you see,
these guys, the big three– Exxon, Chevron,
and ConocoPhillips made $80.4 billion
in net income, right? And then look at this– 2016, $3.7 billion
net income, right? Under the Koch brothers,
I guess they just bought you guys a new building
or something there on this list too some place. Sorry. So these guys are
not doing so good. So ExxonMobil went from about
$40 billion in net income down to about $2.8 billion
in net income. If you lost that much
of your company’s assets over five
years, you probably couldn’t get a job
anywhere, right? Probably couldn’t
get a job anywhere except if you go to work for
the smartest guy in the world, and that would be Donald Trump. And that’s what Rex Tillerson,
the former CEO of Exxon, just did, and he’s our
new secretary of state. But my point in this is
that he wouldn’t even make it on The Apprentice
like that, right? But he gets to go work for us. He’s our big guy now, right? So this is what it looks like. This is where we’re going. This is what we all need it to
be living in in North Dakota. This is the Foundation for
[INAUDIBLE] and Earthwatch. And how I know that the
fossil fuel era is ending is a few things. First of all, things are not
going well for these guys. Second of all, if
you look at the– Shell just jumped out of the– Shell just left the tar sands– closed up a really
big project up there. Let’s see how much was it– a huge project that
they just closed up. And Shell pulled out
$8.5 billion dollars. They just moved out. The divestment movement, now
according to the UN Secretary General– the divestment movement
is about $3 trillion, something like that,
divesting out of fossil fuels. And these guys with their
really brilliant plans– you see all those pipelines that
Donald Trump just approved– kind of the willy nilly
approving of pipelines, right? He approved Keystone, right? He wants that one all back. And then in Canada, they
approved three pipelines. They didn’t approve
the Gateway Pipeline. But they approved Line 3. They approved the Trans
Mountain Pipeline, which is out of the tar sands,
and they approved Energy East. And what I know is that all of
the pipelines they approved out of Canada exceed the amount
of oil that they’re producing. And the projections for
additional production in the tar sands are
increasingly lower each year as climate
change regulation moves in and divestment moves. And so you could be
the guy who thinks you are the most powerful
guy in the world, but you can’t actually make
oil for your pipelines. It’s not there. So it’s really important as
we move ahead into divestment to keep pushing ahead with that,
because they may have taken control of the political
system, but he does not control the whole economic system. And so as I look at what that
looks like in North Dakota, not only does justice
look like the 750 water protectors get justice. But if you took the $3.9 billion
that was spent on the Dakota Access Pipeline and
spent it on cool stuff, you could have bought
62,000 PV panels, or 5 kilowatt PV
units for houses– 62,000 of them. And you could have bought 323 2
megawatt wind turbines, right? And you could have put
160,000 solar heating panels on North Dakota
houses or houses anywhere. So $3.9 billion dollars– you
could spend it on one pipeline. Or you could actually have
energy self-sufficiency, right? And it’s the same thing
with what we’re facing. We looked at the same figures,
and we could do twice as much as that in my community. And so to me, it’s this moment. We have a country that
has a D in infrastructure. We’ve got crumbling gas mains. You’ve got 50-year-old
pipelines all over this country that are exploding and leaking. You’ve got bridges
that fall down. You’ve got roads that
are falling apart– all kinds of bad,
crazy stuff, right? We have a D in
infrastructure, and we’re like the first-world
country, right? And so you could either
spend it on people or you could spend
it on corporations. In Northern Minnesota
right now, I have 300 miles of
pipe sitting there from a pipeline they’re
never going to build. And my position
is you should send those pipes to Flint, Michigan,
because that’s who needs pipes. We don’t need those
pipes, you know? So this is not a jobs versus
the environment thing. This is a let’s put union people
to work building infrastructure that makes sense
and is not going to be a liability for all of us
10 years from now or 20 years from now. And this is what the
future looks like. Do something cool like this. I worked on this project,
which is at the Navajo tribal college at Shiprock– 25 kilowatts of solar. It was leveraged with funds
from the now defunct Mohave Generating Station– worked on that project
leveraging funds. This is what a sustainable
economy looks like. This is my reservation. That’s wild rice. All you got to do is take
care of your ecosystem, and it shows up every year– millions of pounds. If you were us, you’d be saying
that’s worth fighting for, right? The Creator gave us that rice. That’s who I work for–
those guys, right? This is what a sustainable
economy looks like. You decouple your agriculture
system from fossil fuels. Today, about 25%
of our fossil fuels is used on agriculture,
whether it’s shipping it around or slathering it on. A lot of our tribes have– the Napi– all these projects–
a lot of these tribal projects are fossil fuel intensive. And one of the things
that I could never really understand frankly is how
you get something like– to me, you put pesticide,
herbicide, fungicide, all that stuff on it and all
fossil fuel derivatives– all of that stuff
ends with -cide, you which is also like suicide,
homicide, genocide, you know? It means death, right? So I was like, why do you
want to put that on your food? I’m saying, dumb
people put things that end with -cide on their food. I’m just saying just some
things, at a certain point, you got to say,
well, that’s dumb. We just got to move on. So that to me is what we do. So this is a corn variety I
grow on the right side is a Bear Island Flint. It’s what I’d rather do. It’s hominy corn– dry corn. It’s like your corns
down here– twice the protein, half the calories. It rocks the B vitamins–
never had a failure. It grows about this tall. The first time I grew
it, I thought I failed. I always tell this story. My father came to see me
once at Harvard, and he said, you’re a really smart
young woman, Winona, but I don’t want to
hear your philosophy if you can’t grow corn. So then I worked really
hard to be a corn grower, and I can grow corn, but I
never had a crop failure. It only grows this tall. First I thought I
failed, and then I realized it just had
to put on a head– just had to put on a corn cob. And it’s frost resistant. And it’s drought resistant. And the big winds
came through, and they knocked over the Monsanto
varieties, but ours stood. Plant for climate change– plant for climate change. People down here are really
intelligent about that, but those are some
of our varieties. This is what the future
looks like in renewables. And that’s what justice
looks like for Standing Rock. That tribe has a
50-year-old hospital. The road doesn’t have
a shoulder on it. Justice looks like
infrastructure for people. And that’s what I want to see. People say renewable energy
won’t meet our present demand. And I say, why
would you want to? If you waste 57% of your
energy between point of origin and point of consumption– I know there’s a lot of solar
on these campuses, right? Efficiency is the answer. And that’s where the future is. And this is where the
investments are going. Even Shell is moving
into renewables. So the reason I know this
is all going to work out is a couple of things. One is that I was reading
my Harvard Magazine. I always laugh, because
they said me that with the appeal for
the Harvard Fund every year since I graduated. I haven’t given to
the Harvard Fund yet, but maybe I will this year. But they send it. So you guys can look forward
to that in your future if you’re a student here. Every year, you will
get your appeal request. But I read my Harvard Magazine. And there’s this woman named
Mara Prentiss on the cover. She’s a physics
professor, and she says, the reason the fossil
fuel era is going to end is because of physics. She said that the combustion
engine in those cars that we all drove here in– a combustion engine
is 16% efficient. Does that sound dumb or what? Between the drive train– everything in there that
moves reduces its efficiency in physics. Now, an electric engine
is 65% efficient. So when I was out in Washington,
D.C. A few years ago, my sister and I,
you’ve seen her, we were asked to ride our horses
with the Cowboys and Indian Alliance opposing the
Keystone Pipeline. And so we rode our horses. And most of you probably ride
horse, or a lot of you do, but one place you don’t want to
ride is Washington, D.C. Right? Because you’re out there,
and it’s cops, and banners, and flashers, and sirens. And I was like so terrified. I’m a super nervous rider. And so we get there, and
we’re riding our horses, and I’m just praying
the whole time that nothing bad will happen. And I get off my horse, and
I go to my teepee, which is on the Washington Mall. I should have a
picture of my tepee, but that sounds cool
anyway though, right? I get off my horse and go to my
teepee on the Washington Mall. So that’s what I did. I spend my time thinking of
cool stuff to do basically, which is true about
half the time. I was like, yeah, let’s do that. That sounds cool. Anyway, so we had our teepee
on the Washington Mall, and the Lakotas all
had their teepees. We had ours. But we had a really cool teepee. And so I’m in my teepee hanging
out in the Washington Mall with my two 15-year-old sons. And cool people are coming to
my teepee– not when I’m there, but cool people are
coming in all the time. Neil Young is in
my teepee, right? And Darryl Hannah
is in my teepee. And cool people
are in the teepee. You know? And so then I’m sitting in the
teepee in the Washington Mall with my sons, and this guy
comes and sticks his head in the teepee. And he says, Mrs.
LaDuke, would you like to go for a ride in my car? And my sons are like, no, mom. I’m looking at that
guy going, that’s such a great pickup line
from the 1980s or something. I’m like, why do I want to
go for a ride in your car? I don’t know you. You know? It’s like, no. I look over, and he
says, it’s a Tesla. And I was like, yes, I want
to go for a ride in your car. So I walked out of my teepee
into a red four-door Tesla, right? And I want to say, that’s
basically what I want to do. That’s called an
elegant transition. You all got that? You all got that? And don’t go for
second-rate stuff. That’s what we want. We want the cool things. So got to divest to get there. I’m going to show you
a couple of pictures, and I’m going to tell you
the rest of the story. This is my village. This was in the movie
called The Seventh Fire. Someone asked me
about that today. And this is a film. I didn’t like this
film, but it was kind of rough in my village– took this picture. And we said, we don’t want
to be those people, you know? And so my village, which
nobody is going to fix for us, we looked around, and we
started do some stuff. So this is what we started. We took the tagged buildings,
which are painted– we’ve got seven with
murals on them– it kind of was based on– I don’t know, I got inspired
in San Francisco on a mission. Right? I was like, I want to do that. So we did that. The solar at my house. We’re putting solar panels– south-facing walls– saved
25% of our heating bill. It’s what my project does. That’s a pretty cool house, huh? Yeah. Our water tower. And this what doing it
yourself looks like– a lot of volunteers–
a lot of that. And that’s what ours–
that’s what we want to do. This is what we think energy
justice looks like an area. This is solar farms with a
grid system on a reservation. It’s our idea, not their idea. This is what justice looks
like in the tar sands. This is a woman named
Melina Laboucan. And this was her
master’s project. She put 20 kilowatts of
solar up in her village that was a diesel generator powered
village in the tar sands. Cool, huh? I’m like, just do it. Just do it. That’s my feeling is if we
could do it, anybody could. Now, this is your little video. I got off the horse,
and these guys got on. [VIDEO PLAYBACK] [MUSIC PLAYING] This is the Yes Men. – We knew there was a way
to pull the plug on big oil. Can you hear it? – But we needed some help. Ever since we met Giz, we
wanted to do something together. Posing as government bigwigs,
we would infiltrate the Homeland Security conference and
announce that the USA was outlawing fossil fuels and
replacing them with renewables. And the best part– the new wind and
solar power plants would be owned by native
tribes as partial reparations for genocide. – To actually have
white people wearing bands saying native headdress
instead of a feather– a windmill. This is us making fun of
the American ideal of what it is to be Indian. – This would truly be
a second Thanksgiving. I told the conference that
I represented General Colin Powell. And they were pumped
to have him speak. – So our speakers are
arriving just a tad late. We’re not going
to worry about it. General Colin Powell is
coming to speak to us. And he is bringing a
couple of colleagues. – General Powell, of
course, would not show up. But his colleagues
were nearly there. – Oh, my god, you guys. This is not going to
be a total giveaway? – No. – Is there a way to maybe make
it a little less like it is? – [INAUDIBLE] – Well, Daniel, and he is– and he’s followed by the
deputy of the Secret Service. So you’ve got two
exceedingly senior people. – OK, all right, well, I’m
going to just confirm with them, because he’s so late. I’m beginning to
wonder what’s going on. – [INAUDIBLE] Alexander. I am so glad to meet you. – Hello. – Hi. – I’m nervous. Me and [INAUDIBLE]
are sitting down. We’re trying to make small talk. You ever tried yoga? – No, actuallly, I need to. I’m having a hard time
finding the yoga pants. – [INAUDIBLE] – [INAUDIBLE] scientists. – [INAUDIBLE] – I don’t know. It’s a bad hair day. These guys weren’t exactly
tree-hugging eco freaks. We had an aspiring
Republican congressman, a two-star general, lots
of defense contractors, and weird security
guards in trenchcoats. How would they react to
an energy revolution? – Our first speaker
is undersecretary of policy implementation at
the Department of Energy– Mr. Benedict Waterman. [APPLAUSE] – On behalf of the
Department of Energy, I’m very excited to announce
today a great new plan that will do nothing less than
convert the United States’ energy grid into one
that’s powered entirely by renewable sources. As the dire reality
of climate change becomes more and
more inescapable, people will take the
future into their own hands and, historically, we know
that popular resistance is a force that can only, with
difficulty, be countervailed. A revolutionary
energy program today is easier than a real
revolution tomorrow. By 2030, America will
produce 100% of our energy from renewables,
establishing us once again as a global leader
in confronting the supreme challenge
of climate change. [APPLAUSE] We’re excited to be working with
the Bureau of Indian Affairs and some of the largest tribes
from Arizona to the Dakotas to site major wind and
solar facilities that will provide a large
chunk of America’s power. The tribes will own
these facilities. It will provide an
enormous stimulus to the economy and
great resilience in the face of future threats. It’s time for a
second Thanksgiving. [APPLAUSE] – I am Bana Slowhorse. I am the director of industrial
development at the Bureau of Indian Affairs. I am a member of the Wanabi
Nation, and joining me is my nephew here. He’s the fire chief, war
chief, the water chief, and he’s actually
also a midwife. He helps young mothers. [APPLAUSE] There’s a long sort of
history between the Americans and indigenous people. It always hasn’t been a
beneficial relationship, at least not for us. First, we have a voice,
and we will truly own this energy production,
and that’s progress. It will build us a stronger
economy, a brighter future. And we’ll give something
to our children. [DRUMMING] [APPLAUSE] There was a lot of work
done on Benedict’s Path. We want to acknowledge
and honor that. So I actually went
to kill a deer and tanned the hide myself. [APPLAUSE] Keep this here. – That good? [APPLAUSE] – Indigenous peoples. We want to acknowledge
this as the Round Dance. And I encourage
everybody to join us. Form a circle around
as much as possible. – All the way around. – Yeah. Move all the way around. OK. Ladies and gentlemen,
excuse me, I composed this song
for this occasion. I made it a simple song so
we can sing it together, because it’s not just my song. It belongs to all of us. [DRUMMING] (SINGING) Way ya hey! Way ya ho! Way ya hey! Way ya ho! Way ya hey, hey now. Way ya ho, ho, ho. The sun is going to shine. The wind is going to blow. That’s all we need,
to continue to grow. [MUSIC PLAYING] – It would be
worthwhile, I think, to get an opportunity perhaps
to chat with you or your staff. – Absolutely. – When would be
more appropriate? – What kind of
effect do you expect us to have on renewable
energy in the next year? – This is ultimately going
to benefit the economy tremendously. – Good. – Thank you. Thank you so much. – How did midwifery
come about for you? – So he had lot of sisters. – And a grateful
nieces and nephews. – [INAUDIBLE] We’re
a large business, but very interested in seeing
how destroyed this novel cause. – It’s fantastic– so excited. – Yeah, this is
outstanding, man. We feel really good. It’s a very emotional day. – I was surprised to see someone
from Northrop Grumman acting so excited. You weren’t talking
about weapons. You’re talking about renewables. – You know, surprisingly
enough, most people are not megalomaniacally
insane, even people who work for Northrop
Grumman, and if they’re given the opportunity
to do what they actually believe in their hearts is the
right thing, they go with it. – The fact that we can get
all these people that we think of as being from the dark side. The dance in support
of renewable energy is that there are very
few people who actually want us to continue on
this fossil fuel path, and we have to force our
leaders to actually do what we need them
to do, and then people will follow except
for a few oil companies. – Thank you. Thank you. Don’t forget that song now. You sing it anytime. [END PLAYBACK] [APPLAUSE] Isn’t that amazing? They pulled that off. That was so great. So that’s the Yes Men. That was pretty cool. And we’ve got some good– this is leaving Standing Rock. We’ve got some great
ladies out there. I just want to say it’s
really our time, and we are– I just want to say, we’re
basically way cooler than those guys are too. So just keep on. Do good stuff. It’s really all up to us. There’s no one going to come in
and make these changes for us. It requires us making
changes in our communities, being enlightened
thinkers, and you know really doing the right
thing and being courageous. You know? Thank you very
much for your time. [APPLAUSE] Moore: So that was great. I am going to have to work
on that song a little bit. I got a few places
around here where I think we can get that started. So what we’re going
to do is we’re going to take a little
bit of time just to have a conversation. And Winona was kind enough
to be with us all day. So she had a session this
morning with activists. We had folks here from– what’s it called? Oak Flats up in San Carlos. And then we had folks
here from the 202 Freeway, going through the Gila
River Indian Community. And let me see, Eric Descheenie,
who is involved in Bear’s Ears and was successful. Let’s give them a round of
applause for Bear’s Ears. [APPLAUSE] And they’ve added
national park status. And so it’s been a
really interesting day, and we also had a chance to
spend some time with students as well. So what we had asked
the students to do was come up with a
series of questions. And so I have some
prepared questions that I’d like to share with you. And then, also, there
are refreshments. But the idea is that we’ll try
and keep this fairly short, because we also just want you
to hang around a little bit too. So there’s going to
be dessert after. But I do think
that we’re expected to wrap up around 8 o’ clock. So we’ve got a
little bit of time, but I’d like to go ahead
and get to the questions, and then we’ll just
see how this goes. So the first question,
and this is really hard, because there’s so many
things that I think is really worth hearing– what your thoughts are on. But the first one
I think is based on what we had talked
about this evening is, what is the best
way to help Standing Rock and other human
rights fights from afar? LaDuke: I don’t know that
there is an easy answer. I did say that I am
encouraging people to go back to North
Dakota and to be vigilant, because those people
should not stand. We need justice. And I think we need to
face North Dakota down. Audience: What are
that dates on that? LaDuke: There are
trials every week. There are 750 trials. And so our website, Honor
the Earth, or my staff started something
called Freshette, and I think that we’re going to
have a lot of the dates listed up there. I’ll just check with
making sure there’s a link on the Honor
the Earth website, but you know we hired a
whole bunch of lawyers. But to me, we still need more
help on our legal defense. And we need help but
our legal offense, because no one’s been charged
with the dog bite incident. You know what I’m saying? You shouldn’t be able to
put your dogs on people. The water cannon case–
it’s not clear on that. But some people were
seriously injured. And I feel that North Dakota
should be charged itself with the use of excessive force. And that hasn’t happened. And so it’s one of
the hopes that we’ll be working on those cases too. But we will see how that works. It’s not just defense. It’s also offense,
because I don’t think you should be able
to do that to people. And then just don’t let them
militarize all the police in your state. Hold these guys accountable. That’s what I would say. And then as we work
on renewable energy, some of the divest
movement– divest-invest– the big foundations are looking
at investing in wind and solar on Standing Rock. And Standing Rock should get
those projects, you know? Because everybody is
looking at Standing Rock. So I’d like to see that happen. But you know, there should
be a lot of good projects in these other communities too. So make your battles here too. There are battles right here. You know? Moore: I think we did
want to acknowledge really what was happening. And in some ways,
there was an effort to not share that information. Those of us that grew
up in the ’60s and ’70s understood what was
happening at that time. And being here at
the university, it was really interesting to see
our young people, who I never really quite had that
experience to the degree that our grandparents, our
great grandparents, or even our parents had. And to watch it
occur on social media was really difficult for
a lot of our students. And in many ways, we were
encouraging our students to stay in school and the
importance of being here. We also want them
to be protectors and on the front lines. But then we also try to help
them understand that this is why they are in school. So it’s difficult, and I
think it was important for us to acknowledge what was
occurring so that people– and I think it even
came after the election that people were
just out of balance. And I like the idea of
just taking a breath and sitting back– and
you know, we’re resilient. We’ll survive this. But given all of
that that’s going on in your courage,
your experience, all those things that
you’ve done over your time, and I know that
you’re not done yet, is that one of the
questions is, do you have any examples
of false reporting– I think they also call
it now alternative news– or stories that affected
you or your causes? And what tactics and
strategies do you employ to anticipate
and minimize its impact on your mission? And what advice would
you have to those that are protectors
and also organizing to take action as well? LaDuke: It is all the time. And I think that it was
really important that– you know, we started using
the term in Northern Minnesota that we are protectors,
because I’m not a protester. And I had this engagement
about three years ago with actually a tribal
chairwoman on one reservation. And she said, you’re protesting. I said, I’m not protesting. I’m here to protect the water. And so I think it’s really
important to claim the language and to not be trivialized or
minimalized as to who we are. And I really like
that you know we call ourselves water protectors. I like it. And a lot of us were inspired. There was tens of thousands
of people that went there. And a lot of people were
inspired by their courage, you know? And one day, I was writing
on my kitchen table, and trying to mind
my own business, and write some articles. I was all happy. I was home, and I look up, and
I have three grandsons there. And one of them is
wearing my DAPL helmet, which is a snowmobile
helmet with stickers on it, because I was like,
they can’t shoot me in the head with
a rubber bullet. That would be a
problem, you know? It’s like I had a helmet for
going to North Dakota, right? So one of my grandkids
is wearing that. One has a gas mask on. And one has a bandana
over his face. And they have pan lids
for their shields. And they’re like, we’re
water protectors, Grammy. And I thought there
are tens of thousands of kids that are
saying that right now. Let us encourage them. And let us make sure that our
heroes are kept as heroes. You know? And so I just keep
thinking about that. And in Northern
Minnesota, we don’t have exactly the same
problems with the media, because we are correcting
Enbridge all the time. They’ll put out
something, and we’ll say, no, that’s not right. But we are winning
the media battle, because people have
seen what’s happened. But in North Dakota, you
know they just put out this big media spin on
the garbage of the water protectors. They totally packaged that. And it was really mis-spun. And I wrote a story
for the Fargo paper called The Filth
of North Dakota. And I was like, let’s just talk
about filth, like the 40,000 pounds of Rozol
that one guy bought, which is a prairie dog poison– 40,000 pounds of Rozol,
and he broadcast it all over the Cannonball Ranch
and all over another ranch to kill the prairie dogs. And you’re not supposed
to broadcast it. You’re supposed to put it
in their prairie dog houses or whatever. But he broadcast it. And so then the prairie
dogs died, and then the eagles ate the prairie
dogs, and they died. And then the buffalo died. Right? So it’s like, let’s talk
about garbage, North Dakota. Let’s talk about– you
know what I’m saying? Do not put that on us, because
you’re the people who do that. And so I think it’s
really important to always counter
them, and you have to keep at it all the time. Their spin is toxic,
and their spin is wrong. And I think people are
now far more aware– not that other
presidents haven’t been using alternative facts. But the alternative
facts of this president are really amazing. You know? His collection of
alternative facts. Moore: So do you ever
get tired of fighting? Where do you derive
your power to persist? And how do you recharge? LaDuke: Well, today
I was a little tired, because I got up at 3:45 AM
I just want y’all to know. So that’s why I’m a
little bit tired today. I need a nap. But yes and no. I live a good life. You know? I live a good life. Like a lot of other
native people here, I live in the lake in the middle
of the woods on my reservation where my great, great,
great, great, greats harvested wild rice. I can still drink the water. I can look out there in the
lake, and I can see the swans, and I could see everything
that means everything to me is right there. And I get to go
to my ceremonies. I get to go dance. I got horses. I have a good life. And what I want is– I feel like the Creator– in our language it’s called
[speaks Native language], which means a good life. And that’s this covenant
I have with the Creator. That’s the life I’m
supposed to have. And that’s what I want. And these corporations are
interrupting my good life. You know what I’m saying? So I’m like, you’re
not going to do that. I am going to push
you back, because I’m going to keep this life. It’s good. And so just do that. And then every once
in a while I just– it’s good. You got to make sure
you balance yourself. And then think about
how privileged we are. We’re all really first world. My crisis is my cell
phone didn’t get charged. Right? I mean, get real. We’re all a super-privileged
bunch by and large, right? And our stuff is nowhere near. Sometimes my kids are whining. I’m like, well, good thing
you ain’t in Syria, right? You know what I’m saying? It’s like get real. And all of us– a lot of people went through
a lot of hardships, you know? I knew Roberta Blackgoat. People had some
hard times up here. So remember that. So I’m like, let’s be
appreciative about things. And then plus, we’re just
way cooler than them. That’s why I like
that Yes Man thing. It’s like we are so funny. And we’re so cool– you know? So just make sure you
do entertaining things all the time. Enbridge is really
afraid of what we’re going to do to
them next, because we did a whole video called
The Indian Whisperer, which is based on the Yes Men video. And when they hired
their Indian whisperers, I said, did you see that video? He said, yes. He hung his head. He said, yes, they
made us watch it. So just think of conniving
things to do to the enemy all the time. It’s fun. Moore: So we are in a
university environment. And again, I think
that we certainly take pride in what we
can do for our students– native, non-native. And we know that
it’s a system that sometimes can be challenging. As you mentioned, Koch brothers
has a couple of centers here. And those of us that work in
the role of, at least in my job, as assistant vice president
of tribal relations and working with my
counterparts at NAU and U of A, we talk about the
fact that sometimes we spend as much time protecting
our tribal communities from universities as
we do from advocating on behalf of universities. But the fact of the
matter is that we’ve come a long ways in
terms of what education can do for our native students. And with that in
mind, what reforms would you recommend in
terms of educational systems that what most impact
addressing environmental issues and indigenous rights
from your perspective? LaDuke: I was just
really pleased to be at the Sustainability Institute
today and this intersection between sustainability and
the indigenous community that was there. That’s basically the answer. A lot of it is
contained within that. But then also, to be honest,
I’m an economist by training. And the business model
that is still dished out in these schools is not an
appropriate business model for the world that we live in. It was actually never an
appropriate business model, to tell you the truth. If you’re going to pretend that
there’s a never-ending access to resources and that you look
at something like the fossil fuel industry, and they say
that there’s 5,785 gigatons of carbon held by the
Koch brothers, and Exxon, and Peabody, and
all those guys– 5,785 gigatons of carbon
is what they hold. And the business school here,
business school anywhere, will call that a reserve. It’s called the reserve. Or it’s called an asset
of the corporation. But the reality is
is that in order to keep the planet
from combusting, we can only burn about
550 gigatons of carbon– 1/10th of what those
guys hold as assets. And so what I say is that
that is actually a liability. It’s not an asset. And so I could say you
can pepper your school– flavor your school with a little
indigenous here and there. Or you can challenge
the paradigm that continues to cause the
destruction of the Earth. And I think that it is incumbent
upon enlightened schools to re-evaluate how
business is taught. [APPLAUSE] Moore: So one last question,
and then I have a gift for you. So what do you think it
means that a large portion of the people that were
camping at Standing Rock were non-natives? And does this signify
a turning point in relationships
between Native Americans and white Americans
or America at large? LaDuke: That’s a
really funny question. I think there’s a
couple of things, because the youth
of this country– I love them. They are alive. They are awake. They reject a lot of
what has been shoved down their throats by the system. They reject the racism. They reject the paradigm
of the capitalism. They reject. So they are alive. And they are very courageous. I had three Standing
Rock refugees at my house, two girls
that were 20-year-old girls from Philadelphia
with felony charges. I love those girls, you know? I was like, I’m going to
get you girls a lawyer. The public defenders
wouldn’t return their calls. Right? And I just love those girls. But to me, that’s great. That’s why they wanted
to support them. And I have to be super honest. I was like, about half
of them were like, we get to go hang
out with Lakotas? We get to go there? I know they were
like, can we go? I was like, yes, you can go. Pack your own stuff though. We ain’t feeding y’ all. So I think that there was
that whole thing too is like– you know, anybody
who is up there, it was like this moment– it was a great moment. I’m just going to leave
with this one quote where– I’ve been really
privileged in my life. And I’ve hung out with a lot
of really awesome people. And I hope to
continue doing that. But once as a very young
woman, I was about 18, I got to sit with
two Ogallala chiefs. And one of them was
Frank Fools Crow, and the other one
was Matthew King. And they are two of the
traditional Ogallala headsmen. And I was outside with
them, and they were there, and I was listening to them. And I remember this one
thing that Matthew King said that I’m never going to forget. And what he said
is, the only thing sadder than an
Indian who isn’t free is the Indian who
doesn’t remember what it’s like to be free. I think that’s it, because
to me, Standing Rock was, like, we all remembered
what it was like to be free. Right? And once people remember
that, they ain’t going back. And to me, that’s a lot
of what I felt there. I really felt that. And I’m not going forget. You know? And so I don’t want
any of us to forget, because it’s our chance
to be fully human– whatever that means. Anyway, thank you. Moore: Let’s give Winona LaDuke
one more round of applause. [APPLAUSE] And I have a gift here, and
before I do that, I also want to think the School
of Sustainability, the Global Institute
of Sustainability, and all those that helped
organize this whole day and for this evening’s event. So earlier this week,
I had the opportunity to take one of our
deans up to Window Rock, and Tsaile, out to Dine
College, and then over to Hopi. And I really
appreciated the fact that this dean wanted
to go out and see what it’s like in
the tribal community, even though we have
educators– we have paradigms within the university. It’s interesting to see that
transition in terms of what they thought it was and what
it’s like to understand how much learning– how much more
learning that you can learn outside of an institution– and up in the community. So as part of that
tour, Regent Leonard, who had just stepped down
from the Board of Regents. She’s Hopi– LuAnne Leonard– she gave us a tour of their
education and their Head Start programs, and also up
to the village of Walpi. And so while we were there,
along with Old Oraibi, one of the oldest continuous
living communities in the United States
in North America. And so while we
were walking around, there was a grandfather
and grandson sitting outside their
house, and they had done some of their arts and crafts. And so this seemed to be the
perfect place and perfect time, I was going to get
you a different box, but I really like this cool box. So I promise you it’s
not a size 8 shoe. It’s a nice little shoe box. I probably could have
got something nicer, and I’ll get you a better box
if you need one before you go. So we have napkins in
here to help protect this, but we have a kachina from a
Hopi, and this is Mother Earth. So for you. [APPLAUSE] So, again, one more
round of applause. And thank you for
coming out this evening. [APPLAUSE] This presentation
is brought to you by Arizona State
University’s Global Institute of Sustainability for
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