okay hi everyone and welcome to our webinar just going to introduce how to set up a tool farmers market my name is Jenny Cox I’m the evaluation of the staff for food for life I have River acre and will Markham Whitney from BOM links will be introducing the steps to set about the school farmers market and answering any of your questions so I’m going to start off with our presentation so the first webinar that we’ll be pasting so any feedback that you have particularly around any of the technology and using YouTube will be really helpful there’s a link in the description box below the webinar you’ll be able to access an online survey through and please take three minutes to complete that survey afterwards so this webinar is part of an erasmus+ funded program called European healthy peoples and skilled educators by integrated school food systems or epass for short it’s a partnership of ten organizations and schools across the UK Denmark and the Czech Republic our aims are to share best practice and promote health learning and sustainable development through integrated school food systems and one way which we’re going to be sharing that learning is there a series of webinars with this one being the first so food for likes and is the lead partner to epass and the those of you who don’t know us foods like the uk-based charity that aims to make sure everyone has access to good food whoever and wherever they are and we work across a range of settings including hospitals charities and across schools and nurseries and one of the focuses of food for life is to connect connect everyone with where their food comes from and linking with producers and farms is a great way to do this so we support schools to organize school farmers markets with is training and online support I’m now gonna hand over to Ruth and will but like I said there are absolutes in your description below that survey and some email addresses if you’d like to get in touch and thank you ever so much for joining us rip it and we’ll thank so much Jane it’s Rupert here and nice to speak to you this afternoon if you have any questions as we go please write in that little comment box and we’ll try and answer them as we go through presentation so our project which we talked to you about today looks at how to set up a school farmers market basically from planned practice in eight weeks so the comlinks team is part of people I which tries to link schools reproduces as James just says we are basically doing that through farm visits but also trying to get farm activity happening in schools and a good example that our school farmers markets so structural sessions going to go through some of these areas we’re going to be looking the benefits an eight week timeline to look at the process of delivering a market in the school how this might link into the curriculum and again subjects you might be teaching and also a great case studies from Newlands and John markets themselves and then we’ll have an opportunity for questions at the end so as I just said both links team are involved in in delivering these projects and I think one of the key things in terms of supporting bonds and setting up this for schools is to try and create a good link between the school and the farm and I think one of the key ways of doing that is to block but farm back into school getting afterwards and what we’ll be doing is delivering training as part of our Food for Life program and that involves training teachers both on doing the farm visit and on delivering school markets and over the last 10 years we training book about 300 schools and many of these schools will help market every year so what is a school farmers market well basically we’re trying to create a real farmers market in the school ground or school poor their markets which have organized primarily web pupils Asli with guidance from teachers and they invite parents and the local community to come in support them usually the help about two hours at the end of the school day so it’s an ideal time to capture the interest apparently we’ve got children local food producers and farmers are invited to attend and any increment for the school from stalls and from the sales of vegetables or things they’ve cooked in the class that help raise funds for the school is it and in the early stages the idea wasn’t this project would actually raise money so the school could go back and visit the farm again later in the year so there are a number of benefits on the school comers market benefits to the school local community and local food producers so we’re just going to look at some of those now so benefits for the school certainly it raises awareness of where food comes from it helps young people understand a bit more about the people who grow the boot and certainly puts me in touch with the sort of mister hands-on learning that’s the way in which you can learn from the growers about how to communicate more about the food that they’re eating schools can raise money by charging store fees and stunning produce and certainly in the UK schools are very adept at finding new ways of raising money for school school budgets and this is a certainly good one which can engage the children as well and I think I mean certainly having said that children remain people running it they also once probably gain the most terms of skills working together communication doing things like maths and other things on the go to try and work out change to get to people they’re buying stuff lots of things they can do there which improves their they’re learning in a real world situation they’re also Lots benefits for a little community and I think certainly this helps place the school that the hub of a local community and encourages people probably over there to come in and get to know more about what’s happening in school certainly in rural areas sometimes the school is the only thing happening in the local village and this is certainly a way of bringing some words of community members back in touch with the school and also giving them a chance to shop locally school markets also buy quite a nice culture activity certainly in times of year have different flavours to the market great way to bring people together for food or cup tea in the chat and it also provides a great opportunity to opportunity for parents to get more closely involved with the school and Auckland schools look at ways to outreach to parents and get them engaged and this is a great way to to invite them in often more than once a year so in terms of local partners or the producers they provide small-scale market opportunity which is a great chance for maybe small businesses and people just starting out on their route just selling direct to come and trial their products and we certainly found with our markets we done in this country that quite a few of the producers to come along are almost first-timers and they’d probably prod that and come to the school and it’s quite a sort of friendly in demand as a local place to start trying what they’re for the producing I remember a young University graduate who had left University didn’t have a job to start making Scotch eggs and her first market was a school market and she sold out and that 20 minutes and that gave me the confidence carry on and do more of her projects so juice can also meet customers and talk to them face to face get some feedback and also get to know new people in the area might find their produce other markets they’re doing at their own shop and school markets are often the cheaper place to come and sale as well often store feel about pie pans it takes up a couple hours of their time on that day it’s a great place to come and and sell that comes in too much time or money so we developed an eight-week timeline and will its gonna talk through this detail process okay hello everyone my name’s will leave its offices and improve your life one of the main parts of my job is to go out going to school and to run teach training sessions so supporting teachers and advising them in ways in which they can set up school farms markets that we’re discussing within their school and to get the children involved as well so we started running the school farmers markets about seven eight years ago something like that and it was a project that took off very quickly and we gained oft of interest from schools over here in the United Kingdom and inspired by an act inspired by the interest that we got from schools we felt we could develop a project by starting to produce a number of resources that schools could take back to their school and news for running markets and what we did was we produced a little booklet and it was called eight weeks to bronze and it was more food for high schools wanting to run a farms market you could also work towards their brands through Khalifa water same time and the way in which we structured this resource was reproduced as you can see here on the slide an eight-week timeline and for each of those weeks within the booklets we provided schools with a number of different things so each week we provided teachers themselves with a teaching plan so that essentially guided teachers to run training sessions with children and to work towards their market we also provided them within those weeks resources for the children themselves so they could make notes and keep track of their progress as they work towards their first farmers market we also provided a list of top tips the teachers could have a look at and they could make sure that they were on the right track to running their market now then you can see in front of you these were the eight different weeks and the headings for each of the weeks that we normally produced so just to go through them very quickly week one we thought the key the key components for that week would be the start of the project looking at the different types of things you would need to do as you are initially thinking about your your farmers market in school week to the second week we call that the piling stage so once the teachers have initially identified their their desire to do a market the planning stage would involve thinking about how they were going to work towards a market talking to colleagues and that kind of thing week three was the growing stage and potentially growing things for their market it already said a lot of schools sell vegetables that they’ve grown in the school gardens and raise money that way to pay for their farm visits week four the headline for that was finding farmers and that was essentially going out schools teachers the people’s meeting local store holders and inviting them along to the market week five we’re getting much closer to the market now that’s a promotion stage getting it posters up on the walls and letting people in the local community know where and where the market is going to be week six market days fast approaching so it’s preparing for the actual market getting the tables in place thinking about where the store holders are going to be placed in the school hall week seven don’t want to do this one too early is the cooking stage so that’s going to be preparing all of those fresh products which you’re going to be selling for the market itself and then finally after all of that good work that you’ve put in week eight is actual market day and that’s looking at all of those day all of that work that you’ll need to do just before the actual market itself to ensure that it they’re going ahead smoothly and so what I’m going to do now is to go through each of those weeks and just a very brief think about some of the top tips that we would suggest that you could think about if you are interested in putting a small farmers market on your school so week one the start of the project this is the start of your journey it’s the time for you to introduce the concept that a farmers market to your colleagues and to introduce the idea of a cons market to the children as well and it’s also a time to have a think about when you’re going to be running it where are you going to be running it so in terms of top tips for this week as you work towards you market the main thing and the first thing most importantly at all would be to get a date in the diary for your market I always say stitches when I’m talking to me this is probably the most important thing to do at this stage because once you’ve got a date you can then start to work more to that date you can start talking to people and you can tell store owners well it’s gonna be and as I say you’ve got something to actually tangible to work towards once you’ve got a date in the diary it’s a great idea to hold the launch session with a group of pupils in the school what we do try to impress upon schools is it is very much a project that can and should be run by the peoples themselves as much people engagement as possible to ensure that it’s a fun and engaging project for all the young people in your school it could be if you’ve got a school council or an eco Club or a gardening club or what other such similar club they might be the ones who you’d like to take a lead on the market itself so hold a project launch with them to let them know what your plans are what you’re going to be doing and get feedback from the children themselves the other important one as well is to hold the meeting with your colleagues in the school and explain the project and then one of the things that sometimes gets raised when I’m a chapter two teachers is the concern that they we’re gonna that there’s going to be a lot of work for them to do it’s just so alone which is why I always say hold a meeting with your colleagues get your colleagues in fuse get your colleagues excited and it means that the pressure is taken off you as an individual it’s much better to work with the team rather than individual so you’ve launched the idea with the children and with your colleagues and we’re now into week two and the progress towards your market and week two is the planning stage this is when you really start to plan the nuts and bolts of what you’re going to be doing for your market so it might be that you start to have a think about things that you’re going to make think about things that you’re going to grow and think about things you might want to cook for your market and this is also a good time to get down on a piece of paper sit down with the children sit down with your colleagues and create some kind of timeline of work that you’re going to be doing as you move towards your market so a rubub already mentioned the time of the European market so this might be the time that you think even for your market it could be due at Easter market it’s later in the year it might be do you want to do a harvest market and once you’ve come up with your theme you can work with the pupils to plan what they can grow and cook for that market and obviously depending upon what your theme is will very much depend upon the type of produce that you will be selling on market day in each the market will be a spring market which means you might not have much in the way of growing vegetables something that people often sell and their spring markets are the plants themselves rather than the vegetables which will obviously be available later in the year and possibly for a harvest market in the in the autumn time you might think about delegating job roles for the pupils some schools have done this and it’s worked very well so certain people might be the market manager you might have someone who’s responsible for the money itself a finance officer or if the children are interested in the promotion side it could be that you could put together a marketing team are responsible for advertising market to the local community and to new parents this is the time to think about floor plans assiting producers and where you’re gonna put your refreshment stand how many store holders can you fit in your home or how many still homeless can you fit in your playground and the number of store holders will also determine the number of vehicles that you’re going to have on-site that day so have a think about your parking facilities how many vans are you able to get it’s very important that you do allow space for some holders to park they’re going to be coming with loads of goodies vegetables all this kind of thing so ensure that they do have a parking space where they can quickly unload and load up at the end at the end at the market oh and again as I’ve said this is something that you should always be thinking about is involving other staff you could involve the school cook lunch try the supervisors premises staff caretakers senior staff and school governors so think about all of these people when you’re holding meetings and when you’re running classroom activities because we found that the markets tend to run so much better when you involve all of these individuals in the planning and in the activities so week three growing now you’re really getting stuck in it’s time to start thinking about what you’re going to be selling on the day for the market it could be that you start by planting quick and easy things to grow for your first market herbs are something that you could easily plant in week 3 and that could easily be ready for week 8 micro solids as well as something else that could grow in four or five weeks that you can you can sell it in the market another wallet is some Umbro kits we’ve put together a little Ridge Moss which we’d be able to share happily with anyone who would be interested in them and the soin growing here is essentially in a little plastic box full of compost a little bag of seeds and the children can plant the seeds in the compost and grow the seeds in the little plastic container that it all comes in so top tips for the growing week start to plant produce in the school grounds we’re very aware that not all schools have got gardening facilities on-site you might be very limited you might have a very small garden or a small yard so window boxes are something that we work really well for herbs and micro salads think about your growing times as well and make sure that the produce will be ready to harvest in time for your market and the other thing as well which is very much in keeping with our work that we do here in food for life set up a compost heap in the store grounds to recycle any garden waste that you may generate as a result of the audiogram activities so weak for finding your farmers it’s time for the children to think about the journey that the food takes before it reaches the market and ends up finally on our tables this is a great time and a great opportunity for the children to possibly visit a local farmers market or a farm and by visiting a farmers market or a farm the children can talk face-to-face with the food sellers and the food growers and possibly even invite the mohanty on the market so top tips for this week or work with the pupils to follow and book local producers for the market as I say you could visit a farmers market or you could involve the children in doing an internet search and the local businesses who may could then email and invite along to the market I mean speak to local farmers again you might be able to do a little internet search to see if there are any local forms that welcome schools to come along and visit the range of farm visit for the children to go onto the farm to see the full production cycle to find out how growing and livestock rearing works on the farm and then possibly as I said that second ago invite the farmer along to have a story or market so we try the promoting stage son to think about how you might promote and advertise your market it’s also trying to have that discussion about what weight the ways in which you’re going to promote your market I always think we tried a good week to do the promotion stage some people say oh why don’t we start in week one the thing that I always think is that it’s best not to stop advertising too early the reason for that is if you put a poster up too early people might get a little bit too used to seeing the poster and they might forget that the market is coming up so don’t advertise too early leave it for 3 2 weeks before the market before you actually start to dip to let people know what you’re going to be doing so how can you promote your market Hollis school assembly raise awareness let the children know the other children who maybe aren’t involved in the market management let them know what’s going to be happy and those children then go home tell their parents and parents will tell friends and it’s a really good way of generating interest consider how to attract customers and where to promote the event are you going to put posters up in local shops are you gonna put a banner up outside your school all those things that you want to think about start to design leaflets and posters put an article in the school newsletter to communicate with parents and let them know what’s happening something a lot of our schools do as well is that they will speak to the local media be it the local newspaper the local radio station or the local TV station get a press release together and we found that local media they usually really really interest in the story like this and more than happy to come along and interview children and parents on the day ok mark is fast approaching we’re into week six now and it’s time to really prepare for the actual market get creative and start preparing all of those resources you’re going to need for market day start to create the posters that you plan the previous week as well as putting together a floor plan for market day get-together everything in the need your banners your name badges your signs questionnaires for parents on a day you might even start to create a display in the hall detailing what work you’re doing towards the market so you can keep all of the children in the store in canoes and excited about what’s going to be happening so week seven a cooking it’s now time to prepare more of that lovely fresh produce that you’re going to be selling it no market stop harvesting those vegetables those micro herds those plants that you grew in the previous few weeks and maybe dig out some healthy recipes for the children to get creative in the kitchen organize some school cooking sessions to prepare produce and maybe you could speak to parents to come in and help with this something that some schools have done previously it’s part of this week is they’ve actually put together a recipe book and they have recorded and written down all of the recipes of the items that they were cooking so not only could they sell the nice fresh food at their market that they could also sell copies of the recipe book to parents when they came to new markets as well and now it’s finally arrived after all of that hard work that you’ve put in week 8 is Market Day this is what it’s all about your market is upon you we get those last-minute preparations done allocate your job job roles and above war make sure you have fun because that’s what it’s all about so on market day make sure that you’ve allocated roles for people to run their stores help the producers with their stalls what you could do with this is to allocate a pupil or a couple of people’s to each of your store holders so that when still holds and rise the children can greet them they can show them to their table in the market and they can help with anything they might need in terms of setting up you could get children to collect the store fees from the store holders I always recommend you do this in the middle of the market rather than at the start of the market still hormones will be much happier to code to and though their money when they he made a bit of money themselves set up the tea and coffee stall and again get children to help with refreshments you can get children to carry out questionnaires to get feedback from the customers this is a really really good way of analyzing what worked what didn’t work what you can improve next time so it’s a really good way for your markets as you take them forward to your second unit third market will be a couple of questions come in and what about how to make sure that don’t get too many producers saying the same thing yeah that’s something it’s very very good question and something I was gonna mention actually is that’s one of the things we always recommend is when you’re inviting your stallholders is to draw out a little list of exactly who you’ve got coming along on the day and make sure that you don’t have to stall holders selling the same thing we have school market once where I don’t know how it happens but they manage to invite three egg sellers on the same day and a whore’s is not a very pretty thing to see when you’ve got three egg producers or competing for money from a small little market full of parents and local community so yeah it’s a very fair point is make sure you find out who to invite on the day have an egg seller have a Polly seller have a chicken seller by all means have two or three different meat sellers but just have that conversation before having to ensure that they’re selling different things so you might say to the person who’s selling the sausages buy all these green sausages but don’t bring burgers because we’ve got someone else so ignore something like that so yes certainly something to be aware of and then the final thing really in terms of market day is make lots of money have fun and make lots of money and use that money that you’ve made and put it towards you next mark pay for a farm visit for the children or put it back into your cooking facilities or back into your garden building raise fares buying composters back in your garden what a lovely sustainable way of generating income for the school and a planet back into the fantastic work they’re doing well and that’s all well and good but one of the questions we always get asked by teachers is as well as doing these projects we have specific curriculum criteria that we have to make sure that we hit so it’s very important that you do link your markets to your curriculum there’s loads of different ways in which you can link your market to your curriculum that you’ve got just a few examples here geography children can develop knowledge about their local area they can visit the local farmers markets find stallholders and they could plot where they store holders come from on the map by doing that they can also learn about their local area and what it’s grown and produced in their local area computing I already said you could get children on a computer is doing it internet search of local store holders and they can research local farms and what’s happening on those local farms maths is a very good one school farmers markets they can be weighing produce you can be looking at profit and loss and as I said on the previous slide as well you can be allocating individuals to go and collect stories so money handling skills our work again another good one in terms of the promotional side of things producing posters and producing leaflets for the market and well we’ve also had a question remember and Danish participants asking about whether we’d talk as well as the curriculum mates about sustainability with the students during these eight weeks yes yeah here and I think it’s not the key things you can start talking about part of this project Asli food is a great way to introduce beans around sustainability and certainly in the markets we’ve helped run it’s a key part of the discussion you have the pupils about who to invite so you might not choose to buy it’s a big factory egg farmer but instead go to a local small holder who’s got few chickens out in the backyard you might have criteria about how far appeal or do you invite producers from so in terms of looking for your closest this will produce they’re your closest meat producer and having been people you divide first and then you might also have discussions about packaging and what sort of bags if any people have and just just think about all those issues in terms of [Music] running a market so yes I think sustainability is a key thing and it’s a great vehicle to you to help promote sustainability issues okay so moving on we’ve now got a case study from new and sub job just like to take this opportunity to say thank you to everyone over at the academy for putting together a case study we’re hoping to be able to have someone from the school to actually chat through the case study but unfortunately the technology didn’t really allow us allow us to do so we did try and have a look at it so just what it say if there’s anyone from Newman so John on the webinar if they do have anything they want to add in as I read through it just please type it into the little chat function and Jenk and Jen can read it out and we can we can we can talk about it they yes thank you very much for putting this together for us but so human said John have been doing school farmers markets and looking at the case that they put together they we did absolutely fantastic work there and involving the children so one of the first things that they they brought up in terms of their farmers markets was the importance of advertising and essentially letting everyone know in the local community that there’s going to be a farmers market coming up and you can see here on the slides so we have really really colorful posters that they put together for their markets and some of the key points that I call now looking looking at these they’ve covered all of the important things some some things which some schools do miss actually but yeah the day and the date it sounds like a simple thing but I’ve seen skills that have forgot to put that on the time of the market itself where it’s going to be and they’ve done really well in putting together what’s going to be there their markets as well so any prospective customers will be able to see those posters and see what’s on offer on market day so again a really really important thing is getting the pupils involved in the markets and you see here in the photos the children have had lots and lots of fun in actually putting together preparing and running the stalls on Market Day itself so that photograph in the top left there I mentioned earlier there’s so and grown kits and that’s exactly what they did there you can see this young man here proudly selling is someone grown kids or herb herb pots as they call them and say a little plastic pot with compost and sand seeds in there with a little picture detailing exactly what and grow once you once you Sonya seeds and then on the bottom left there that go on the club and having fun and proudly displaying all of the lovely looking plants much better than I produce in my garden and let’s say displaying all of their lovely plants for their for their store and again the kind of seasonality element coming into it again that we’ve already chatted about so bottom-left plants which are often good for springtime and then in the top right there everything’s grown comes to autumn time and September farmers market was a great opportunity to show off all of the beautiful looking allotment produce that was grown in the school that open course at the summer and then in the bottom right there you’ve got your growing you’ve got your cooking there in the bottom right so children producing can’t quite see what it is it looks like they said homemade vegetable soup lovely which is another school that they don’t see that they put together so in all the local community units that John found that it was really important to set aside some space for people to have a drink and to take in the atmosphere of the farmers market and this is something that we very much very much recommend when we’re advising schools on how to set up a farmers market a tea and coffee and refreshments stand shopping is a is it is a thirsty business so if you could provide somewhere where the community can sit down take a break have a drink have a bit of cake have a chat and then refresh themselves get up and do a little bit more shopping there’s something we found and obviously Nuits and John found worked worked really well nothing that I seem to do if you if you’re thinking to do this is to get children’s or actors waiters and waitresses as well and maybe take orders from local community and it’s a really nice way for children to develop their communication skills you see in the bottom photo there your family’s coming along enjoying the refreshments enjoying the atmosphere and again you’re talking about young children here and there’s a case that he says and it’s exciting for younger children to come along see the school event and it makes them feel comfortable when they start school themselves because they’ve already been within the school environment and you met the teachers see what the school is like and it’s just a very nice way of eating those young children into school when they when it’s time for them to come to school so support from local business is obviously something important and it’s something that Newland sent you on did very well the wide range of local businesses people who came along to sell their wares at their market got the local honey seller in the top-left there we’ve got this chap called Bob’s original bangers he’s very popular chapters well Bob’s original bangers he’s there quite a few school farmers markets now a banger in the sausage and he tends to be very well at the school farmers market so he’s very very good supporter of our project and in the bottom there we’ve got someone selling how many pies by and look at it and it says in a case study this is a lovely opportunity not only for them to sell their produce but also to talk to the visitors to talk to the customers and to share their knowledge of growing of producing food and giving customers at the same time an opportunity to ask questions about locally sourced food and to find out exactly that process that the food has gone through before it reaches their table another thing that they did need said John was provided some activities for children in order to encourage families to come visit the market so no he’s a lego crash for the younger children they could come along and playing with Lego while the parents did their shopping there was a butter-churning store so getting children to create their own butter by putting it in the pots and shake it up until they’ve got butter and a bit of face painting going on there as well on the right hand side one of the other things that they did as well as well as the store holders they involved outside organizations and outside agencies so organizations came along to promote fitness and to talk about healthy eating as well and they did this really long promotional materials for families to take away and offered advice and support on things such as I’ll be eating and then last but by absolutely no means least such a good market really important thing was to promote the success of the event as well and what they did it knew and sent John you can see here they produce the newsletter and it’s gave information on what was at the market what was sold there were some quotes from children who were involved in the market there were quotes from members of staff and quotes from stallholders photographs and the market happening and essentially just a lovely way and encouraging healthy eating and reminding families what was going on in the school what they could buy asked if their farmers paid for attending and I think Diane and me and st. John said that only for their school and was not hit they paid five pounds to take part in the market is that the recommended amount that you should be asking useless for yes certainly I patterned since the Isuzu whose average figure we seem to find I know that some initially but farmers may be unsure but how are we going to do and it’s good just have a low figure so maybe some seeds of donation to the school really and then having done a market hopefully as we found in most cases he’ll do really well and some farmers have said they’ve done better in two hours at the school market than they’ve done in the whole day at the parent center farmers market because you’ve got such a captive guns and supporting audience so usually they’re very happy to spend five pounds sometimes they pay more sometimes if they had a bad day schools let market be about lending money but I think five pounds in in the UK is a bit bigger and then what do you schools tend to do if they manage to make a profit from their event well that’s really up to the school and the pupils we really encourage schools are talk to people that have they want to reinvest their money and ideally it should go back into something which involves food or farming or some sums are linked they’re a nice example which I worked we bought at a school in the middle of Shropshire which is out in the wilds of the west of the country and they do the market and they first markets I think they it’s remain soup or cake to sell and then they made about two hundred pounds in UK money at that and they asked the pupils what they wanted to do with the money and they said they’d like to grow some strawberries so that in their summer market they could do a cream tea so he planted trilby pants and sure enough the next market they did green teas with strawberries and and stones and green which is a very British thing to do and they against all those and they made in Japan from the cream teas and again they are some pupils I will just spend that money and the people said they want to get some peaks the school thought pigs might be a step too far so they actually got some chickens so I started if you can chickens school grounds I really show his house but children are really involved in the decision-making about how to have spend the money but it could be on just getting some materials and tools to improve school grounds with raised beds or or greenhouse so it could pay them that the bus to take me to a local bar so that anybody want ya and Camille and st. John have commented to say that they make between 250 and 280 pounds on the school farmers markets which they merged put back in to be their allotment and cooking activities we’ve had employment a question which we had been able to get onto yet which was asking about school farmers markets alongside other events other school events and whether that’s something you recommend and and if you do what other events might not be running a school farmers market alongside another event is a really really good idea what some of what sort of a schools do is they might run their school farmers market alongside their summer fete or alongside as complain or something like that one of the benefits of doing this is that you are guaranteed parents through the door one of the worries to a school sometimes when they’re doing the farmers market is are we going to get customers through the door if you run it alongside a summer fete when you know that people are going to come along to it it’s great because you’ve got those guaranteed customers the store homes are going to be happy because they’re going to sell their produce and everyone is going to go away satisfied if if you do decide to do this what we would suggest doing is making sure that you run your farmers market in perhaps a separate little space in its own one of the dangers is if you put your store holders around dotted around amongst people from from the other event from school fete or something it can water down the whole idea of the farmers market and it becomes just like a big fatal or something so if you are going to do it make sure you put all of those foods store hummus together in one place so you’ve still got that continuity of a market going on as the other event run as well great and then we’ve had another question asking about a meat the best way to identify store hold as a little Jesus if they don’t have those mental setup yet very good way to get in touch yeah tightening stallholders is always a challenge and often sometimes in a rural area obviously no stock holders will be quite close but certainly in urban areas it might be more a challenge to find a local producer who can get all of these lee and we tend to recommend just getting out there on the internet reading and having a look who’s around and if you find there’s already producers there who are currently selling direct or public they are already doing farmers markets we’ve got a farm shot of on gate sales they are often the ones who are quite warm and quite easy to you to bring along but having said that again you’re a long way away from producers who are able to help often there’s a local beekeeper often there might be a local author and Baker or local butcher or a local shop who are happy to come along with selves and local produce I mean the day you can start off by running a March it’ll just fall by stalls and it feels like a good event especially once you when you introduce some of the people’s with produce as well and certainly worked in one school where they couldn’t find any producers who were able to attend but juices were happy to children have produce either for free or for a sort of wholesale price and then the pupils so that farmers produce on their behalf basically sounds quite a nice way of getting around that and something that I picked up from more training sessions in schools as well is if you’re looking for stall holders something as simple as asking the children or asking your colleagues as well it’s amazing if you just stand up in front of a group of children and say we’re going to be doing a farmers market does anybody know of any store holders they come in right along to say it’s amazing what kind of ideas and children will come up with you know and often it’s things like my mom makes jam at home to sell or my uncle sells eggs room from the front of the house or something like that speaking to colleagues as well in a staff meeting and you know it’s amazing that the ideas that you’ll come up with when you when you do that as well you know it might be that a colleague will say oh I Drive home and on my drive home from work I pass a farm shop and lunch or they might like to come along and have a store there he’s struggling just try something like that and as I say you know he could very easily come up with three or four different ideas of stallholders that you could invite along and then Neelam st. John apples they commented to say that they made a list of all that quote the produce they wanted to sell so they have a much more focused list of people to research you could be they knew exactly what sort of product they wanted at their school farmers market so that might make things a little bit simpler in that research and planning stage great anyone has any other questions for Rupert and will there is an email address in the description box then you can pop some questions through if you think of anything else and there’s also that survey link which I mentioned that’s just a survey about the webinar and how helpful you found it and so please take a couple of minutes to have a look at that as well we’ll keep social media up-to-date on any other further webinars or training activities but thank you ever so much – you will and Rupert for leading on this webinar through much great joining us [Music] [Music] you [Music] [Music] you [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] you [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] you [Music]